Comments on: After The Thrill Is Gone http://www.baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/after-the-thrill-is-gone/ Customers, Marketing, Work, and Thoughts on a Creative Life Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:29:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Bianca Cowan Dumas http://www.baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/after-the-thrill-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-352 Bianca Cowan Dumas Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:34:15 +0000 http://baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/10/after-the-thrill-is-gone/#comment-352 I just posted on an article which says that Bangladeshis are the happiest people on earth. They, and all the other people whose countries landed top spots in the survey, are among the poorest people on the planet. Of course, one reason for this is because impoverished people actually do see an improved quality of life when their incomes increase, whereas a $10,000 a year increase for us doesn't make much of a difference. Also, however, I wonder how a steady diet of moderate poverty (with no hope of ever making more money) might quiet the accumben, therefore flooding the person with less desire and therefore less anticipation/stress/craving. I'm NOT a proponent of poverty, nor do I feel that poverty is better than comfort or wealth or any other human condition. But in looking at this from a Buddhist perspective (that the cessation of craving is the cessation of suffering), I think it's an interesting link. Here's the permalink to the article, as I posted it: http://iraisemykids.typepad.com/i_raise_my_kids/2006/01/for_those_of_us.html I just posted on an article which says that Bangladeshis are the happiest people on earth. They, and all the other people whose countries landed top spots in the survey, are among the poorest people on the planet. Of course, one reason for this is because impoverished people actually do see an improved quality of life when their incomes increase, whereas a $10,000 a year increase for us doesn’t make much of a difference. Also, however, I wonder how a steady diet of moderate poverty (with no hope of ever making more money) might quiet the accumben, therefore flooding the person with less desire and therefore less anticipation/stress/craving. I’m NOT a proponent of poverty, nor do I feel that poverty is better than comfort or wealth or any other human condition. But in looking at this from a Buddhist perspective (that the cessation of craving is the cessation of suffering), I think it’s an interesting link. Here’s the permalink to the article, as I posted it: http://iraisemykids.typepad.com/i_raise_my_kids/2006/01/for_those_of_us.html

]]> By: Kare Anderson http://www.baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/after-the-thrill-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-351 Kare Anderson Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:38:23 +0000 http://baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/10/after-the-thrill-is-gone/#comment-351 Another factor is "context", that is how we see the situation and our chocies. That old "grass is greener" principle. The book Smart Choices has great insights into how we often fool ourselves when making decisions. One of the authors, Howard Raiffa, has been a hero of mine (re how we make choices) since college Another factor is “context”, that is how we see the situation and our chocies. That old “grass is greener” principle. The book Smart Choices has great insights into how we often fool ourselves when making decisions. One of the authors, Howard Raiffa, has been a hero of mine (re how we make choices) since college

]]> By: Face2Face Meetingsnet http://www.baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/after-the-thrill-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-353 Face2Face Meetingsnet Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:53:03 +0000 http://baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/10/after-the-thrill-is-gone/#comment-353 <strong>The thrill of the hunt</strong> Chris Bailey at the Alchemy of Soulful Work has an interesting post based on his reading of an article in the Harvard Business Review's issue for January 2006 called Decisions and Desire by Gardiner Morse about what goes on in our brains that causes us... The thrill of the hunt

Chris Bailey at the Alchemy of Soulful Work has an interesting post based on his reading of an article in the Harvard Business Review’s issue for January 2006 called Decisions and Desire by Gardiner Morse about what goes on in our brains that causes us…

]]> By: Chris Bailey http://www.baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/after-the-thrill-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-350 Chris Bailey Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:09:10 +0000 http://baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/10/after-the-thrill-is-gone/#comment-350 Dan, welcome. I think you're absolutely right. I've been there before. We <i>want</i> to be right and it colors much within our frame of perspective. I recall a time when I left one organization for another and knew that I was going more with my emotions and ignoring some rational "truths." Turns out I knew within three months that I made the wrong decision. Jory and Dwayne, yeah I think there's a lot more going on beneath the surface here. Some folks hop for reasons that connect both emotion and logic. Some folks hop for reasons that overemphasize emotion or logic. Without the balance, we tend to not make very good decisions. I think we can also overemphasize the end point, rather than enjoying the journey to get there. Of course, actually enjoying the journey will take some deprogramming since our culture tends to place a great deal of importance on achieving goals. Dan, welcome. I think you’re absolutely right. I’ve been there before. We want to be right and it colors much within our frame of perspective. I recall a time when I left one organization for another and knew that I was going more with my emotions and ignoring some rational “truths.” Turns out I knew within three months that I made the wrong decision.

Jory and Dwayne, yeah I think there’s a lot more going on beneath the surface here. Some folks hop for reasons that connect both emotion and logic. Some folks hop for reasons that overemphasize emotion or logic. Without the balance, we tend to not make very good decisions.

I think we can also overemphasize the end point, rather than enjoying the journey to get there. Of course, actually enjoying the journey will take some deprogramming since our culture tends to place a great deal of importance on achieving goals.

]]> By: Dwayne Melancon http://www.baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/after-the-thrill-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-349 Dwayne Melancon Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:35:25 +0000 http://baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/10/after-the-thrill-is-gone/#comment-349 I've been reading this issue off and on for the past week, and I really like it. I think what you learned from the article is right on. It also reminds me of something I heard recently (can't remember where) about a study that showed that the most satisfaction comes from *pursuing* a goal - far more impactful than achieving the goal. Maybe some of the job hopping is from people who want a new or bigger challenge because of this dynamic? I don't know - interesting and thought provoking stuff, though. I started subscribing to HBR to burn up some air miles on an airline I never fly any more, and have been really pleased with the info in there. Before that, I'd only "spot read" when I found myself in a waiting room with HBR around. Now I'm hooked. I’ve been reading this issue off and on for the past week, and I really like it. I think what you learned from the article is right on.

It also reminds me of something I heard recently (can’t remember where) about a study that showed that the most satisfaction comes from *pursuing* a goal – far more impactful than achieving the goal. Maybe some of the job hopping is from people who want a new or bigger challenge because of this dynamic? I don’t know – interesting and thought provoking stuff, though.

I started subscribing to HBR to burn up some air miles on an airline I never fly any more, and have been really pleased with the info in there. Before that, I’d only “spot read” when I found myself in a waiting room with HBR around. Now I’m hooked.

]]> By: Jory Des Jardins http://www.baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/after-the-thrill-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-348 Jory Des Jardins Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:37:11 +0000 http://baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/10/after-the-thrill-is-gone/#comment-348 Allow me to insert my more Freudian interpretation of this issue. Perhaps people job hop because they have internal desires/unresolved issues/desire for approval that makes them hop on every new bus that comes by. Only when a pattern is noticed can anything be done about it--the process of determining what really makes someone ticks begins. Or mabe that's just me. Nice piece! Allow me to insert my more Freudian interpretation of this issue. Perhaps people job hop because they have internal desires/unresolved issues/desire for approval that makes them hop on every new bus that comes by. Only when a pattern is noticed can anything be done about it–the process of determining what really makes someone ticks begins.

Or mabe that’s just me. Nice piece!

]]> By: Dan Kligerman http://www.baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/after-the-thrill-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-347 Dan Kligerman Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:43:33 +0000 http://baileyworkplay.com/2006/01/10/after-the-thrill-is-gone/#comment-347 The decision to leave one organization and join another can be caused by any number of factors, but I have found that by the time someone has made that decision, they are always in a state of great rationalization. That is to say, they are so emotionally invested in the decision to move that rational and sound decision-making no longer takes place; they are looking through a lense that allows them to see only factors that agree with their decision. The decision to leave one organization and join another can be caused by any number of factors, but I have found that by the time someone has made that decision, they are always in a state of great rationalization. That is to say, they are so emotionally invested in the decision to move that rational and sound decision-making no longer takes place; they are looking through a lense that allows them to see only factors that agree with their decision.

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